So… we skipped a week and didn’t tell anyone. Sorry about that, folks. Life got in the way in a big way, but we’re back with stories to tell.
Kris and Tara share COVID stories. Kris dives into her experience at ReadOUT. And of course, we’ve got those tasty, tasty recommendations.
Official Recommendations
From Kris: Best in Show (2000)
Kris’s official recommendation this week is the film Best in Show, in honour of the late, great, and very much missed Catherine O’Hara. It’s a mockumentary set in the wild and wacky world of competitive dog shows and the people who devote their lives to it. And, it turns out that the film aged fairly well. If you haven’t seen it before, check it out.
From Tara: When She Flies by Lee Winter
Tara’s official recommendation this week is When She Flies by Lee Winter. Despite a humiliating first encounter that only one of them remembers, Jasmine and Sienna reconnect later in life by chance and their relationship churns up a lot of things that need changing in their personal lives. Tara thinks this book would make an awesome mini-series.
Works/People Discussed
- ReadOUT 2026
- EF5 by Kris Bryant
- Bridgerton (Netflix)
- Queer Eye (Netflix)
- 60 Days In (A&E)
- The Traitors (Peacock)
- His and Hers (Netflix)
- RuPaul’s Drag Race (World of Wonder)
- RuPaul’s Drag Race: UK vs. the World (BBC Three)
- Mel Brooks: The 99 Year Old Man! (2026)
- This Love is Undeniable by MJ Duncan
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Transcript
>> Tara Scott: Hey everyone. Welcome to Queerly Recommended, the podcast where we recommend queer books, films, TV shows and more. I’m Tara Scott and I review sapphic fiction and the lesbian review and smart trashy books. And this week I’m recommending a new Sapphic romance novel.
>> Kris Bryant: And I’m Chris Bryant, a contemporary romance writer for Bolster Books. And this week I’m recommending a movie from 200026 years ago. I know.
>> Tara Scott: You didn’t have to say how many years. It’s been.
>> Kris Bryant: It’s been a while. We were just babies. We were just babies.
>> Tara Scott: Oh, I know.
All right, so we maybe, skipped a week. We just didn’t release a podcast a couple weeks. We didn’t release an episode a couple weeks ago. And we’re very sorry.
>> Kris Bryant: My fault.
>> Tara Scott: But we had a really good reason for it. I wouldn’t say it was your fault. And also I forgot to tell people that part was on me as well.
But hey, we’re back and what happened? What happened? Why did we not do an, episode? And how are you now?
>> Kris Bryant: I got Covid again. Second time. Second time. And I am doing better. I no longer have the lava lungs. That was a thing that was really hard for me. I didn’t have lava lungs the first time. Oh. But this time I did. It was terrible.
>> Tara Scott: I didn’t know there was a name.
>> Kris Bryant: For it, but I call it lava Lungs. I don’t know if that’s it, but that’s what it feels like.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. Where I know exactly what you mean, because. So I’ve had it. I know I’ve had it a few times. I’ve possibly had it more than that. I don’t know. I have kids that go to school, so I mean, I just, you know, we get viruses. But it was the one time, do you remember when I got it, and it took almost a year to resolve?
>> Kris Bryant: Yes.
>> Tara Scott: Yes. I had that. That burn. I had the burning lungs for probably close to a week. That scared the out of me. So I’m sorry to hear that you had it too.
>> Kris Bryant: Yeah. I feel like my symptoms overall were better and fully boosted.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: So I feel like I’m. It was better. It was just. It felt like a bad cold.
>> Kris Bryant: But it didn’t feel like it did the first time. So that’s the weird thing about COVID It’s not. Everybody’s like, oh, you’ll be fine. It’s like a cold. It really isn’t. You don’t know what it’s going to affect.
>> Tara Scott: No.
>> Kris Bryant: And so Many people don’t get tested anymore. They’ve just given up. Like, my dad, he swears he’s never had it. And, I’m like, dad, you’ve had it. And, like, he. He actually got tested. He went to urgent care, and he got tested, and it was negative. And I’m like, just because you tested once doesn’t mean, like, I tested five days straight, and I was negative until that fifth day, and I was positive. So, you know, it’s not just a one and done, and that’s how my dad feels. Oh, I don’t have it, because. So just like, okay, fine, dad. And I told him. I said, I swear, like, at the very beginning. I think both my parents had it, like, probably in 2022. But they both, like, trying to get a test back then, trying to go somewhere and get tested. You know, they, like, shove it up there. They’re like, no, we. We. Oh, yeah, just stay at home and stay in bed. You know, three days later, they felt better. So whatever.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least you were vaccinated. That’s good.
>> Kris Bryant: Yes. I’m back, and I’m back in action. So this is good.
>> Tara Scott: And you got sick in time to make sure you wouldn’t get sick at.
>> Kris Bryant: readouts this year, in Gulfport, Florida. So I was asked to be a speaker. A, speaker. I was asked to be on panels and just be a writer in front of people. And that was so much fun.
>> Tara Scott: I’ve heard such good things about it. What were some of the highlights for you?
>> Kris Bryant: So it’s a very small venue, but the thing I like about it is I got to hang out with people that I normally don’t hang out with. It was a different crowd, different writers, for sure. And I thought the panels were extremely engaging, and, like, the moderators asked great questions and didn’t lose control of the panels. Like, that was exceptional.
>> Tara Scott: Nice.
>> Kris Bryant: Also, the event takes place at a theatre, so it’s very professional. They have, like, you’re on stage, all the lights are on you, huh?
>> Tara Scott: Uh-huh.
>> Kris Bryant: And so the crowd’s a little bit down below and in the dark, sort of, you know, like, if I was.
>> Tara Scott: Doing a one panel at a time.
>> Kris Bryant: Instead of competing panels, it’s one panel at a time. Yeah. And it was also, you could get virtual tickets to it if you couldn’t make it in person. So that was kind of fun.
>> Tara Scott: Oh, I didn’t know that. Damn it. Okay, well, next year, I’m gonna attend virtually.
>> Kris Bryant: I think you should. Yeah, I think it’s yeah. So my only beef is that the location is in a theatre, so everybody was spread out. Gcls. It’s. It’s in a hotel and everybody’s like, oh, let’s go up to the ninth floor. We’re gonna go hang out with whoever. And yeah, and this, it’s like VRBO, Airbnb, like Uber. Like there wasn’t anybody close by. You couldn’t just go, oh, let’s go hang out at this person’s place? No, you had to Ubers or find. I didn’t have a car, so I’m like, kitchen rides, you know, shout out. Tegan took me places. You know, nice people. Yeah. So you know, my roommates were like taking care of me and driving me around. And then I ubered a couple times. So it was just. That part was really inconvenient. I did not like that. But the event itself, I mean, massive. so the, you know, the problem is also when you have a bunch of introverts together and then you’re all like, oh, we’ll get together later. No you won’t. You won’t. You go home and you’re done. Like you sit there in your little group of friends that are, that you’re rooming with and that’s the evening. Like there’s no.
>> Tara Scott: I would sit down and say, hey, what can doordash bring to me? Right, to eat.
>> Kris Bryant: Exactly. Exactly. I walked across the street to Dollar General and I got a bunch of like really bad things to eat. But there’s. This is so funny. Okay, so we had, we went to this coffee place and I picked up this THC infused drink and it was like THC and something else. It was like really strong. And one of my roommates and I, we, we drank it. We started at 5:30 and by 9:30 I was done. Like I was toast. I was like, I don’t need to be anywhere. I need to be in bed asleep. So I do that. I go to bed and at 4 o’ clock I wake up and I’m so hungry. Like I am famished. Like I have the munchies. Like I’ve never had the munchies before. So I think I’m being quiet as.
>> Kris Bryant: I have four roommates and I’m m sneaking down the hall, you know, sneaking down there. And so I have like nutty bars and fudge rounds and of course you are a raccoon. I am a trash panda.
>> Tara Scott: You are trash panda.
>> Kris Bryant: That could be the episode title.
>> Tara Scott: Trash panda.
>> Kris Bryant: I get into the Fudge rounds. I think I’m being super quiet. I, like, take it by the corner and I, like, go back down the hall and I close the door and I’m like, no, m. No, no, no, no, no. And I’m, like, eating it. Like, it’s just crumbs everywhere. And then I wake up the next morning and I go out there and they’re like, could you be any louder? Like, could you be. And I’m like, really? I thought it was super quiet. No, I was. Not that much later. It was some strong stuff.
>> Tara Scott: It sounds like it. I wonder how many milligrammes you had.
>> Kris Bryant: I want to say it was like 50. The drink is holy. It was 50 and I shared it. So I did share the drink.
So I didn’t share.
>> Tara Scott: Usually have at a time.
>> Kris Bryant: It is not that. It is not that. Nope, it’s not that. So. Yeah, so. So needless to say, we didn’t touch it anymore. Like, nope. It just stayed in the. We had. We got two different flavours and the other one wasn’t even touched.
>> Tara Scott: Oh, my God.
>> Kris Bryant: That’s. Yeah, it was just like, I said, you know what? We’re gonna have to be present this night because it’s like one of the last nights. And my roommate was like, yeah, we should.
>> Tara Scott: So, yeah.
>> Kris Bryant: Also, shout out to Macon Lee and Kelsey and Jamie for everyone involved in readout and, creating a safe and fun space for queers. Like, massive shout out. I really loved being a part of it. I really appreciated, the invite and I really had a good time.
>> Tara Scott: Amazing. Yay, Amazing. Love to hear it.
And here’s the thing. I don’t have news, so I’m just teeing up all your news. All right, guys, I don’t have news. I’ve been working. I mean, my only news is that, like, when you all had. And when I say you, I don’t know if it’s actually you because I don’t know what the weather’s been like in Missouri, but, like, when all that snow dumped in, the fucking cold happened and all that ended up with a Chinook coming in here. So it’s been like going out for a walk with, like, a hoodie.
>> Kris Bryant: Not even, wow, yes.
>> Tara Scott: Oh, on come kind of weather. So I don’t know. I’ve had nice weather and the puppy is still cute. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I have puppy news. And then we’ll get back to you.
Okay, One piece of puppy news. Ember lets Henry snuggle her name.
>> Kris Bryant: Oh, perfect.
>> Tara Scott: We’ve made it to that Level. It’s adorable.
>> Kris Bryant: So jealous.
>> Tara Scott: Makes my heart explode. And he likes to be cradled like a baby.
>> Kris Bryant: So you can flip him.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah, I can. Hang on. I’ll send you.
>> Kris Bryant: Oh, yeah, send me.
>> Tara Scott: I’ll send you a photo.
>> Kris Bryant: I’m sorry. I’m so jealous.
>> Tara Scott: Ridiculous. It’s my favourite thing. He loves to be. He loves to just be a little baby. All right. That’s my new. I have a little. And, he went for. He went. He. When he went for his last round of shots of a week or so ago. He’s six pounds, so he’s a big.
>> Kris Bryant: He gained a pound.
>> Tara Scott: He can’t go up and down the stairs in the house. It was funny. We had a gate that was blocking off the stairs, and we did it most. Like, I don’t want him to go in my bedroom or something if I forget to shut the door. Well, it was making. Like, Ember has separation anxiety. and so it was freaking her out. And so we got rid of it today. He can’t go up or down the stairs, so we didn’t actually need the.
>> Kris Bryant: Gates this whole time. I thought maybe he would sleep. He’s so tiny. He would slip between the little.
>> Tara Scott: Thankfully, no, because they’re all. They’re. It’s about roughly an inch. He’s not. He’s little, but he’s not that long. He’s not a mouse. All right. But, but. But.
But you have other actually exciting news because you also have a baby.
>> Kris Bryant: I do. Sort of. It’s like a toddler for me.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: So I was in a, Stranded Hearts collection, through Bold Strokes Books. It was me and two other writers. And so BSB decided to sell the novellas individually for Valentine’s Day for this, for this year. So it was something I wrote a couple years ago. It’s called EF5. And we all know how much I am scared to death of tornadoes. And so I decided, hey, let’s write another romance about tornadoes because, you know. Exactly.
>> Tara Scott: We confront our trauma through. Right, right.
>> Kris Bryant: So it has a sheriff and it has a wedding photographer who’s. And she’s speeding to beat a storm. And so they ended up getting in a very close proximity, small space during this event. And. Oh, look, maybe there’s love that comes out of it.
>> Tara Scott: Maybe. Hard to say. You’ll have to buy it to find out.
>> Kris Bryant: Right, Exactly. So that, That’s pretty much, my news. News.
>> Tara Scott: That’s exciting, though. Congrats on the new. On the new old, but new again.
>> Kris Bryant: Toddler release thank you.
>> Tara Scott: On the toddler. Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: I’m a baby. It’s a toddler release, so a re release.
>> Tara Scott: What have you been? I don’t know if you’ve been doing any reading. Have you been doing any reading or just watching? What have you been reading or watching or just watching.
>> Kris Bryant: So yeah, I think the last thing I read because I had Covid, the last thing I read was Atmosphere. And we talked about that.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: I haven’t read since then because, you know, Covid. But I have been watching a lot of tv and guess what is back on Netflix.
>> Tara Scott: What is it? Ooh, well done with rolling the R.
>> Kris Bryant: so they dropped the first four episodes and then at the end of February they’ll drop the last four or something. They’re splitting it up, which is great. And I love it. I’ve always loved the music. I love the storyline. It’s Cinderella. This storyline is Cinderella.
>> Kris Bryant: And, the main character, Benedict Bridgeton, is embracing his bisexuality.
>> Tara Scott: Oh. Yeah.
>> Kris Bryant: So he goes to this, like, club. It starts off and he goes to this club. I say club, you know, whatever Victorian era club would be. And it’s basically an orgy. And this guy comes up to him and they like, make out and he’s like, I. I don’t have time for this right now. I guess in the books, in the Bridgerton books, he is not queer. He is not bisexual. He is not. But Netflix added that, added the flare and it, was great.
>> Tara Scott: Weren’t they all white in the books too?
>> Kris Bryant: Yeah, probably. Probably so. Yeah. But it’s great. I mean, I love it. I love that. And instead of like the glass slipper, it’s a glove. It’s a silk glove.
>> Tara Scott: Oh.
>> Kris Bryant: So who is the mysterious person at a mask ball who is missing their glove?
>> Tara Scott: Oh, very fun.
>> Kris Bryant: It is very fun. It’s very fun. It is very Cinderella. And I love it. I love every second of it.
>> Kris Bryant: I’m also. I watched, the final season of Queer Eye and I cried at every single episode. Every single one.
>> Tara Scott: Okay. Was it good? Because I haven’t seen it, but I’ve been following some of the controversy.
>> Kris Bryant: Oh, there’s controversy? Oh, yeah. Stop it. Stop it. Because I’m in love with Jeremiah.
>> Tara Scott: No, no. So the controversy is more like Karamo is talking to almost nobody in the cast. Like they’re unfriending each or unfollowing each other on Instagram.
>> Kris Bryant: What? Don’t break my heart.
>> Tara Scott: According to Reddit, which obviously is the gospel on everything where I get my News the T on Reddit is that. So Karamo’s mom was visiting one day and she could hear when two of the other ones were talking about him.
>> Kris Bryant: Oh, yeah.
>> Tara Scott: And so that was kind of like a no, thanks. And there are a lot of people, unfortunately, on Reddit who also don’t like him, where I’m like, do you just genuinely not like him or are you racist? Like, there’s. It’s just like, a weird. I can’t really track what’s going on there. But he didn’t show up for a lot of the promo that happened when the new season dropped. And it also just felt strange too, seeing a lot of like, the. The promo talking about, like, oh, this is the end, and it’s so beautiful. And there’s like, nothing acknowledging that Bobby Burke was there for most of the series. I know he wasn’t there for the last season, and that’s absolutely okay. But, like, I don’t know, the cast drama is just weird.
>> Kris Bryant: So I knew nothing of this. So here’s. Here’s what I liked.
>> Tara Scott: The.
>> Kris Bryant: This is what I enjoyed about it. You know, they had the episode, it was fine. You know, some of them were good. Some of them I didn’t care about. What made me cry was at the end of the episode, one of the cast, I guess cast would say why this had changed their life. Like, why what it was. And it was just so, like, it felt so heartfelt. I mean, I believed it and I knew nothing that’s going on. Like, that hasn’t always been my go to. To watch. But seriously, I was desperate for stuff. Like, I have watched several seasons of it, but I haven’t seen every season. And I absolutely love Jeremiah. Like, I love him because he cries as much as I do. Like, he cries everything and he can’t. Like, it’s just. It was just, It was. It’s so good. Like, and just to hear everybody, how their journey ended and how it started and how they’re very appreciative without all this other Reddit stuff that I did not know about.
>> Tara Scott: well, and I think it’s good to remember too, with shows like this, that as much as it might feel like they’re all friends or. And maybe they are friends, but, like. And it might feel like they’re a family. They’re co workers. Yeah, this is a job. Like, they are colleagues. And like, you don’t always stay in touch with your co workers.
>> Kris Bryant: That’s true. That’s true. You don’t.
>> Tara Scott: And, you know, that’s okay. Yeah. I haven’t seen the season yet, but one of the things I did like about when they introduced Jeremiah is you see these other four who, like, they’re kind of used to it now because they’ve done it enough seasons that that’s the job. And so he comes in and he sees the profound change in people’s lives.
>> Kris Bryant: Oh yeah. And he gets like, super emotional. I love it.
>> Tara Scott: Beautiful.
>> Kris Bryant: Love it.
>> Tara Scott: It’s adorable.
>> Kris Bryant: So, I mean, if nothing else, watch it for him.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: He’s nice looking, he’s super sweet and he cries a lot and he just, you know, I, I do know he is married and he has two kids and like beautiful family. I just, it’s, just beautiful.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah.
>> Kris Bryant: so, yeah, so I watched that and then again, I’m on the couch for a week.
Of course I watched a show called 60 Days In. I don’t think I’ve heard of this one. Right. So it’s a show where people voluntarily go into prison. Because especially like this one took place in Utah where the warden wanted to find out where drugs were coming from and if the officers were treating the inmates with respect or if they were abusing them or what the deal was. So they’ve asked, they asked like six or seven people to go undercover. Like half of them in the men’s ward and half of the women’s ward.
>> Kris Bryant: So they have these, they get all, they all get together and they talk about what they’re going to be doing. And, and you just look at these people and you’re like, this person’s not going to make it. They’re not going to make it.
>> Kris Bryant: And then like, then you’re like, this person’s going to make it. You know, you go down the list and guess who makes it. Like all the women and guess who doesn’t make it? All the men, like, alone. Right. So it was really interesting to see like, like they pull out, called out like a lot of the. This one woman, she was, she was awful. Like, she was just very. Oh, I don’t care. Oh, this is gonna be fine. I have no problem. I think I’ll enjoy myself in prison. Like, just like, was really.
>> Tara Scott: What?
>> Kris Bryant: Like, she just did not. She was not reading the room or the situation or anything. But she ended up actually staying for a long. She stayed the whole time. And she had made, quote, unquote friends with people and she was trying to rehabilitate them and stuff like that. So she was getting really involved. And there was another lady who was like, in The Navy. And she was just like, she took her role to heart. Like, she was all like, I’m a badass bitch. I’m, head in charge. Like, it was, that was weird. Like the whole thing is weird. you know, they were telling the warden, like, look, this is how you’re getting the drugs in. This is, you know, and their cameras everywhere. And so they told the prison that they’re doing this documentary, but you never knew, like they would just randomly talk to inmates. So they didn’t know that the it was undercover. Like, they didn’t know that this person was actually part of it. And they had like cameras on them or on the walls. And it was just like, it was very interesting. And some, a couple people found out, a couple of the guards found out, like, oh, this person like, is not an inmate. He’s actually undercover. So he had to leave and they got somebody else in. But it was interesting. Overall, the whole concept was kind of interesting.
>> Tara Scott: It sounds like it. So it’s a reality show.
>> Kris Bryant: Yeah, it’s a reality show. And I don’t regret it. Like, I don’t. It’s not something that like, oh, I can’t wait for season two. It’s not like that. Yeah, yeah, it was good for me for the time because I was really interested in it. M. But now I don’t care. Yep, I’m over it. Then,
>> Tara Scott: Oh.
>> Kris Bryant: Just FYI, Love is Blind is coming out tomorrow.
>> Tara Scott: Oh man.
>> Kris Bryant: I just want you to know. Yeah, I will be involved in that all weekend. Happy Valentine’s Day.
>> Tara Scott: Tell me if it’s good. Tell me if it’s good because I have a four day weekend ahead of me, so. Oh, nice.
>> Kris Bryant: Look at you. Yeah, I’ll get started on that.
I’m still watching The Traitors. I still love it. I love everything about it.
>> Tara Scott: I heard Monet Xchange is on this season, which is pretty exciting because Monet is so. Monet is best friends with Bob the Drag Queen who was on last season. So I kind of love that there are.
>> Kris Bryant: It’s like Housewives vs gamers and by gamers. It’s like people have been on reality shows like Survivors, any sort of game, so they call them gamers. So it’s Housewives versus Gamers pretty much.
>> Kris Bryant: And then of course Donna Kelsey is on the the season.
>> Tara Scott: Oh, right. I feel like my main reason to watch it and this is going to sound kind of silly because like I started watching last season and like it was good. I just forgot it existed.
>> Kris Bryant: Right.
>> Tara Scott: But I feel like the thing that would actually, if I start watching it would make me want to keep watching it is knowing that they do a recap show with Bob the Drag Queen and Rob. Anyway, one of the other people.
>> Kris Bryant: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
>> Tara Scott: Who he competed with because, like, I’ve seen Bob do recap shows. Like he’s sometimes the host of the. Or they’re sometimes the host of the pit stop, the RuPaul’s Drag Race recap show. And if Bob the Drag Queen is on a podcast, I’ll listen to it because he’s just such a good guest, on everything. It’s just fun to listen to, talk to again. Like one of those people that were. It’s like, oh, you have adhd and that’s great. Let’s go. I want to hear everything you have to say.
>> Kris Bryant: and the last training is good. And trainers is good. Yeah. And fun. And I do enjoy it.
>> Tara Scott: Nice.
>> Kris Bryant: And the last thing I watched was his and hers because a lot of people at work were saying that I needed to watch it. It’s just a short series on Netflix, I think. It’s like, I’ve seen the title, but.
>> Tara Scott: I don’t really know anything about it.
>> Kris Bryant: So. Do you want to know why I watched it?
>> Tara Scott: I do.
>> Kris Bryant: Okay. Because the main character is a character from the Walking Dead and, you know, I’m a loyalist. I’m gonna watch anything with any.
>> Tara Scott: Not for 60 days in, but definitely for the.
>> Kris Bryant: For the Walking Dead.
>> Tara Scott: I will.
>> Kris Bryant: So I watched that. And here’s the weird thing. I. And I’ve talked about this before when I love it when a show gets me. Like, I have no idea where it’s coming from. Like, we talked about this. I talked about the Sixth Sense and how. I did not know that. I did not see that coming at all.
>> Tara Scott: Sorry, I just. Sorry. I just have to laugh because I think I told you about my experience with the Sixth Sense.
>> Kris Bryant: Yeah. So that sucks for you. But like, for, like, for something to take me by surprise, I absolutely love it. Like, I applaud people who do that because I hate myself that I’m always trying to figure things out. I can’t just relax. I m have to try to figure it out.
So in this one, I wasn’t really into it that much and I actually looked at Deb and I’m like, I think blah, blah, blah is the killer. It was like so, like off the cuff type thing.
>> Kris Bryant: Then you get down to the end. And then you get down to the end, end. And it’s just like.
>> Tara Scott: Were you right?
>> Kris Bryant: Yes. I was right. But I was like, how, how was I even right on that?
>> Tara Scott: My best example of that ever was many years ago when Neil’s mom still lived in town. Sometimes we would watch like BBC miniseries together and we watched the miniseries for Bleak House and I can’t remember what the detail was because we’re talking like 15 years ago. It’s a really long time ago. But I was like, oh, did so and so do such and such. And she just looks at me and said, do you even want to watch the rest of it? And I was like, yeah, I don’t. I want to know how I get.
>> Kris Bryant: How they get there. Yeah, yeah. I hate. Like, so my dad, he goes, he sees this movie with my sister, the James Bond movie, and he gets back and we’re all sitting around and somebody asked him what he thought of the movie. He’s like, I can’t believe James Bond’s dead.
>> Tara Scott: What?
>> Kris Bryant: Yeah, from like two years ago. So I’m sorry, whatever.
>> Tara Scott: It’s.
>> Kris Bryant: If that’s a big spoiler for everybody or whatever, it’s not actually dead.
>> Tara Scott: For real. They’re not going to kill off the series. They’ll just recast them or something. Yeah. Since the 60s.
>> Kris Bryant: 008.
>> Kris Bryant: Who knows? Next one or six or seven. Who knows? Yeah. But I mean there are people who do that who kind of spoil it and don’t realise that they’re spoiling it. Yeah, yeah, same thing. Like I think I told you when I was in college, Thelma and Louise M. The English teacher gave it away, the ending. And we’re all just like, what the. Why, why would you give that away?
>> Tara Scott: But you’re a baby. So you were in kindergarten at the time. Which is. I wasn’t kind of frankly. Right.
>> Kris Bryant: I should not as a five year old been watching that.
>> Tara Scott: Not appropriate.
>> Kris Bryant: No, not at all. All right, so that is enough about what I have been doing and reading and watching. What about you? What’s. What’s new with you?
>> Tara Scott: Okay, okay. So RuPaul’s Drag Race season 18. Honestly, I, am loving it. It’s great. So if anybody’s listening, you’ve been hearing me talk about the show for five damn years.
>> Kris Bryant: Right.
>> Tara Scott: And you have resisted thus far. Like, I honestly think it’s a great season to start with. Like, all the people are really strong. It’s interesting because like often they’ll start with a talent show and they just did it like partway through the season. Instead, like they’re switching some things up. I’m having a really Great time with it. I think it’s my favourite season in a while. And then I didn’t know that this was going to happen, but I had this little text thread going with a few of my co workers that it mostly exists to talk about drag races. Like if it’s a drag race, that happens in English. So us, uk, Canada, sometimes Australia, although Australia is not great. And then any of the All Stars versions we talk about, we think about it like, usually weekly. And one of my coworkers was like, oh, my God, did you all know there’s a new UK versus the World? And I was like, what?
>> Kris Bryant: No.
>> Tara Scott: So wonderful surprise. I had no idea this was even coming. But there’s a new season of UK versus the World, season three. There’s only one Canadian competing, Melinda Verga, who is from Edmonton, Alberta, which is very exciting to me. And for the first episode, it was like a look that represents your country. And so the look that she chose is basically like it’s related to the Calgary Stampede. And so I felt a lot of pride.
>> Kris Bryant: yeah.
>> Tara Scott: As a Canadian and Albertan and a Calgary, and that she chose to do that. Unfortunately, she also went home first, so that sucks. But honestly, some of, like, right now I’m rooting for the queen from Thailand because she’s m. amazing and hilarious and it’s just. It’s really good. It’s really fun so far. And do you remember, I think it was last year when I talked about this show called the Boyfriend? It’s a Japanese gay dating show. Yes, it’s all, boys. It’s very sweet. It’s back with season two and honestly, I think I like it even better because so they still have the thing where they’re all staying in. It’s supposed to be like a house, but it’s more. It’s more like a dorm.
>> Kris Bryant: Right.
>> Tara Scott: They each have their own room. You don’t get to go fuck in each other’s rooms. Nothing like that. But instead of just like pairing them up for dates all the time, they have to work a coffee truck. So like, one person will get chosen to be the shift leader. They get to choose who they want to go with out on the coffee truck. And then whenever they’re done, they can go for like a meal or a drink or something like that to get to know each other. Last time they had to, like, use their earnings from the coffee truck to buy their groceries, which was, frankly, weird. I don’t care about budgeting for your groceries. And it got real weird because they had a guy Who’s a go go dancer that was there. And he’s like built and he needs to eat a lot of chicken breasts. And the controversy around the chicken breast. And also, frankly, it was disgusting. He was blending it into like chicken, shakes. Stop. he cooked the chicken, but blended them in shakes. And I looked at it, I’m like, nope. Oh, right. None of that. None of that. They can use their money for whatever they want. So, you know, they used it one time to all go on a snowboarding trip, which I thought was adorable.
>> Kris Bryant: That is cute.
>> Tara Scott: It’s just, it’s so cute. There’s one relationship for sure. I think we might get two or three total. I love it.
>> Kris Bryant: I love it.
>> Tara Scott: It’s so fun. And I would recommend it, except I have something else to recommend, so I recommend it anyway. Watch the Boyfriend on Netflix. And there’s. I don’t know if you know, but there’s a documentary on hbo. It’s two parts, so it works out to about three or four hours about the life of Mel Brooks called the Hundred Year Old man, which is a play on that album he did with Carl reiner called the 2000 year old man.
>> Kris Bryant: Mmm. I love Mel Brooks. Love him.
>> Tara Scott: So Judd Apatow made it. It’s his documentary about Mel Brooks. Highly recommend. It made me cry because of course in the second part, back to back, they talk about him losing his wife and Bancroft. and then they talk about the period after that, like how he and Carl Reiner, you know, they would have dinner together and watch their shows every night. And then Carl Reiner died and I was like, you cutting onions in the room while I’m watching this documentary? How dare you.
>> Kris Bryant: Like, how do I say this? Like my family, we’re odd, but like, one of our favourite movies is History of the World. I. I could almost recite that movie from start to finish. Yeah. You know, and of course, Blazing Saddles. Like that one and absolutely. Young Frankenstein.
>> Tara Scott: Frankenstein, yeah. Young Frankenstein and Blazing Sad, two favourites.
>> Kris Bryant: We still to this day randomly quote History of the World. Like, it just, it’s just like in everyday life something will come up and it’s just like, boom.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah.
>> Kris Bryant: Mel Brooks, like it’s.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah, he’s a genius.
>> Kris Bryant: Genius for sure. Yeah.
>> Tara Scott: Well then you will love this documentary.
>> Kris Bryant: I’ll have to look it up for sure.
>> Tara Scott: Not queer at all, but, well, well worth watching.
>> Kris Bryant: No.
>> Tara Scott: And I read a book. Oh. So it’s the latest. I believe it’s the latest from MJ Duncan. It’s called this Love is Undeniable. It’s a second chance romance with, like, a super famous pop star. Probably m kind of sort of like a Taylor Swift kind of person. But the idea is that she had been five years prior, she had been in a really serious romantic relationship with an actress named Veronica. But she wasn’t willing to be out because, like, a pop star of that level, like, it’s just not a good idea. It’s not safe.
>> Kris Bryant: It’s not.
>> Tara Scott: Whatever. And broke it off basically saying, I. I can’t do. I’m doing this for you. I’m doing this for your safety. Because they had been chased by paparazzi, got in a car accident. Veronica broke her leg, and she’s like, this life isn’t safe for you. It’s not good for you. You want to be out, and I can’t be out. And neither of them ever really got over it. Grace didn’t date again. Veronica did, but the relationship didn’t last. Grace has been like, she’s going to see about doing some of the songs on the soundtrack for a film. And she gets pulled into reading for the part because one of the other leads who happens to be a pop star. Look at that, right? Like, it was not working out. With auditions, they already have Veronica cast as the love interest to the pop star in this film. And so she has to go in, and she kind of is, like, taken by surprise, but is like, okay, I guess I’ll do this. And they’re doing the reading of the breakup scene in the film. Oh, And so, of course, she fucking nails it because it’s not that hard to dig deep for the feelings. So she has to do it with a love of her life whose heart she broke and broke her own. And so they end up doing this movie together, and they get back together. I guess I’ve been having a bit of a harder time in the last few months reading published fiction. I’m still doing it, and I’m still reading at least one every couple weeks because I do want to make sure that I’m recommending published fiction as much as possible on the podcast. And I do still enjoy it, but I’ve been reading a lot of fanfic, and I think it’s just, you know, the world is terrible.
>> Kris Bryant: Ah.
>> Tara Scott: And there’s been, like, it’s been pretty nuts at work. And so, like, what I’ve had the capacity for is the familiar. And the thing that’s nice about fanfic and only reading in two fandoms is that I know these characters, even if the setup changes or whatever. There’s a lot of familiarity to it. But I was talking about that one day to my friends Bex and Brenna. Bex, friend of the pod. Hey, Bex. hey, Bex. But Brenna said, hey, do you want something, like, super cosy? And I said, yes. And she said, read this book. And I said, okay. But, like, what kind of angst are we talking? Because with second chance romances, I don’t always want to go into them because sometimes it’s like, we’re gonna murder your heart going through why they broke up in the first place. Like that one. Oh, what’s that one book? You recommended it. It’s a beautiful book that I had to stop reading.
>> Kris Bryant: Ah.
>> Tara Scott: I can picture the author’s face. That’s not helpful. And do you know the one where, they broke up because they lost a daughter to cancer and one of them cheated on the other one?
>> Kris Bryant: Are we talking about Life and Death by Ulrich?
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: Life and Death. One of the best books ever.
>> Tara Scott: Absolutely not my speed right now. No, I’m, looking for squishy, comfy, Cosy. And so I said, like, okay, but it’s a second chance. Is it? Like, how much angst are we talking? And she text back, zero. And I was like, I’m in.
>> Kris Bryant: Let’s go.
>> Tara Scott: There is no angst. And it’s almost 500 pages. So if you’re looking for, like a long, sustained, warm hug of a book.
>> Kris Bryant: That’s it.
>> Tara Scott: Absolutely. That’s the one.
>> Kris Bryant: That’s it.
>> Tara Scott: I really loved these characters. I think the thing that was like, one of my favourite things about it is, so they meet up again at this reading and then Grace has to decide, does she actually want to do this film? And they meet up, to have a conversation about it because they. They both want to make sure that it’s going to be okay. But she’s talking to her best friend and realises, like, I can’t believe I let her go. She was the best thing that ever happened to me and I want her back. And she’s like, but Jess and her friends, like, you’re scared. She’s like, yeah. And her friend says, do it. Fucking terrified if you have to. And so for me, this whole book, like the subtitle, could just be do the Hard Thing. Scared. You’re scared. Do it anyway. And so now, unfortunately, I’ll never find it on my Kindle again because I think it’s called do the Hard Thing Scared. But it’s really not. It’s Called this Love is Undeniable. There’s Good friendships in it. I will say, if you want, like a really tightly edited romance, this is not the book for you. But if you want a book that’s like just taking the fluffiest quilt and wrapping it around yourself and you can just like go hide from the whole world, yeah, m. It was. I’m going to say this. It. It was a perfect book to be reading while some pretty heinous shit was dropping in the Epstein files. Because it’s not of this world. It is not. It is its own perfect, enclosed, beautiful world. It’s. And it’s on Kindle Unlimited. So if you have Kindle Unlimited, perfect, you’re covered. So, yeah, this Love is Undeniable. Or do. Do the Hard Thing. Scared you won’t find it on, on, Amazon, though, if you look for that name. But that’s how I think of it. So, Chris. Yes.
What’s your official recommendation today?
>> Kris Bryant: So. So before I got sick, or while I was sick, I can’t remember. I had Covid. So I can’t remember anything. I watched this movie and I’m like, oh, I really like this movie. I’ll have to recommend it. It’s queer. I like it. I don’t remember the title. I don’t remember anybody in it. I don’t even remember what it’s about.
>> Tara Scott: You just remember the warm, fuzzy feeling. I know.
>> Kris Bryant: So I was stressing because I always, like, I do notes the day of, the podcast or the day before. I just kind of like write down, jot some things down, like, oh, yeah, this is what I’ve been watching, or this is what I’m recommending. And these are the reasons I forgot. I couldn’t remember it. I even looked through the history on my television. I looked through my Netflix account. I don’t know what I watched, but whatever it was, it was good. And if I, if I can remember.
>> Tara Scott: Or something at some point in time when you watch it again, I’ll be.
>> Kris Bryant: Like, oh, my gosh, this is the. Yeah. So anyway, in the meantime, sadly, I did watch, in honour of the great Catherine o’, Hara. I watched Best in Show. And that is my recommendation. I absolutely loved the movie when it came out in 2000 and watching it again, having a life, you know, 26 years later, watching this movie, it is still good. It is still hilarious. Good.
>> Tara Scott: I’ve been meaning to re watch it because I haven’t seen in a long time. It is probably one of my top five comedies ever. And she’s spectacular.
>> Kris Bryant: And she is Cookie. Like she’ll always be Cookie. And yeah, it is, it’s, it’s, it’s a mockumentary comedy. I guess it’s like a documentary comedy type thing.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. One of Christopher Guest’s excellent ones.
>> Kris Bryant: Right. It’s like a behind the scenes look at a highly competitive and cutthroat world of dog shows. But it’s through the eyes of a group of like ruthless dog owners. Like this is kind of the scenario and this movie is just so funny, like from start to finish. Like the dry humour is just spot on.
>> Tara Scott: Well, and I believe it’s all improv, isn’t it? Like I think they were given outlines, like I think they’re given outlines of like what it was they were supposed to do. But I think everything else, if I recall correctly from 20 years ago.
>> Kris Bryant: 20 plus years ago. M And it’s not really about the doc. I mean it kind of is about the doc show but it’s really about the kind of people who do these shows. The way, the way it’s filmed is what they do is they, they like interview a couple or a person and then they show their life with that dog and then they show that dog in the, in the actual competition. So they do with all like six, six main characters or six main couples and their dogs. And it’s just like, it’s, it’s perfect. I mean I absolutely like even watching it again and again. It’s just, it’s great.
The cast is Chef’s Kiss. Hands down, best cast of a movie in a very long time. So we have Catherine O’Hara and Eugene Levy. They are, what’s his name? Jerry. Jerry. Jerry and Cookie Fleck.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: And they have this little dog, a little terrier named Winky. And they are so involved in their dog. Like they have parties and they sing and they create terrier songs. And so by the end of the documentary they’re like, oh yeah, our friends love our song so much that we cut an album. So this album of terrier songs, it is terrible. Parker Posey’s in it.
>> Kris Bryant: She and her husband take their dog to therapy because their dog saw them having sex and is depressed now.
>> Tara Scott: Yes. Like total New York yuppies.
>> Kris Bryant: Exactly.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah.
>> Kris Bryant: Jennifer Coolidge is in it and she’s like a trophy wife and she married this, this really old rich man.
>> Tara Scott: Like she’s like, she’s like an Anna Nicole Smith.
>> Kris Bryant: Yes. And she’s like, we can talk about nothing and do that for days and we’re like seriously communicating and it’s the best communication ever.
>> Tara Scott: Like soup.
>> Kris Bryant: Right? Soup. Exactly, soup. We love soup. We talk about soup. Yeah. So it’s so great. And Jane Lynch is the dog handler for Sherry, who is Jennifer Coolidge. She’s a dog handler. And at the beginning of the documentary, like they’re very professional with each other.
>> Kris Bryant: Jane Lynch is. She’s the handler for a standard poodle, a white poodle. And let me tell you, like every actor who is in this and they are, they run with the dogs, you know, because you see that they, they run around the judges and they do like a quick walk slash slight jog. And every single actor like nailed it. Like.
>> Tara Scott: Yes.
>> Kris Bryant: In my mind they were actually in the show. They were showing off the dogs. I. Like it was perfect. It was absolutely perfect. Like they say these really nice, cutesy things and then, and then you see their relationship develop a little bit more and you’re like, that’s curious. And then you see like later on they, the camera pans to them because like their dog does something and. And they’re making out in the corner.
>> Tara Scott: Fantastic.
>> Kris Bryant: It’s just, it’s just so good. Like there’s so much queerness in this, in this movie. Like there’s two couples, like there’s a two men, they have a Shih Tzu and the one who actually prances the dog is very, very showy. Like the dog, like he’s. He. It almost like he takes the character of the dog on and he loves the applause and he prances and he PRs. And he’s just like, he is all for it. Like he is all in this. And his husband, you know, is just as happy for him and happy for the dog. And it’s just, I just love it. I love them as a couple. They’re just. Yeah, they’re hilarious. I’m trying to think. So even though it was made 26 years ago and the gays are kind of stereotypical sort of in a way. But also it’s a mockumentary and it was designed to be that way anyway, so I still think it kind of holds up.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. I mean it’s a lot of stereotypes. Yes. All around.
>> Kris Bryant: Right. We have the trophy wife. We have the like you said, the rich boring New Yorker who. Yeah, no, it has a meltdown because her dogs are having sex and then the husband that goes, therapy, busy me. Yeah. And. And like loses her mind when the dog’s toy disappears. Yeah. Like it is just, it is perfect. It’s like how these people only have their dogs in their life. And the thing I love about Cookie and her relationship is everywhere she goes. Somebody shows up and she’s had sex with them. Yeah. Like in the past she’s dated them or had sex with them or. Hey, Cookie, you’re looking great. Do you remember when we hooked up in that bathroom down in Tulsa? And you know, Eugene’s just like, what the hell?
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. She’s like, oh, but she only has.
>> Kris Bryant: Eyes for him, right? Exactly. But I’m with you and only you.
>> Kris Bryant: Anyway, so I had to watch it. I mean, just because I was going to watch it anyway for Catherine O’Hara. I wanted to just, you know, because that whole thing. And then I had forgotten how good of a movie that really was.
>> Tara Scott: So.
>> Kris Bryant: So that is my recommendation. Best in show, still hilarious, still funny. And I think everybody would get a kick out of it. Great cast. Love it.
>> Tara Scott: Love it.
>> Kris Bryant: That is mine.
What is your official recommendation?
>> Tara Scott: Well, I don’t know if you know this, but Lee Winter has a new book out.
>> Kris Bryant: Yes, Lee does.
>> Tara Scott: Yes, she does. It’s called When She Flies. It was very recently released.
And so one of the leads is Sienna Fisher. She’s an artist, she travels the world looking for inspiration. She’s in when the book opens. She’s in New York City and she’s like kind of walking down the street. She looks in the window of a building and she’s like, whoa, what’s all that art in there? And she just decides to just like walk in.
And while she’s looking at this wall of art, this gay dude, like very, obviously like grabs her hand. It’s like, what are you doing down here? He thinks she’s the new intern and drags her up to the all staff meeting. And she’s, she believes in fate. And so she’s like, maybe this is just what it is. And she plays along.
But when she gets there, the CEO is Jasmine Gamael, who is an art curator from London. Because Sienna also grew up in London and Jasmine like founded and ran the Gallery of Modern and experimental art or something like that. And that was a place that Sienna went every weekend as a teenager. And finally when she was 18, because her dad is kind of a well known landscape artist and had taught her how to do watercolour landscapes. And so she, she got up the courage to say, hey, can you look at my portfolio? and Jasmine, all of 20s. No, she would have been older than that. Maybe early 30s. She’s 12 years older. Yeah. So she would have been 30, looks at her portfolio and says, you don’t know anything about life. You need to go out and experience things and travel.
And like it was this, it was so hard. And like, of course she got her heart broken that this person she looked up to did this to her. But also that is what got her on this, like travelling around the world and going from country to country. And now she is an artist. She does not under her own name, but like she’s quite successful.
And Jasmine now is in New York City. She founded, you know, she created this, this gallery. She was like the IT person for the London art scene. But a decade ago she married this rich architect guy who set her up with a luxury goods company that only sells to like the most wealthy people in the world. And so now, you know, she’s not curating art anymore. The only art she sees is what she puts up in various places in the office and in her home.
It’s also known that she never talks to the interns. That’s something that her husband runs because he wants basically to just hire his rich friend’s kids to come in. But she notices that Sienna is different.
First of all, she’s 34, so she’s not like some 19 year old who doesn’t know how to do anything. she’s much more grounded, she can talk passionately about art. Jasmine doesn’t know who Sienna is, she doesn’t recognise her. M. And so Sienna has a chance to get to know her. And it’s a shame she’s so attractive when she’s married and straight. But is she straight? No, she’s not. Because it’s a Sapphic romance novel.
There’s a lot of really interesting stuff happening in this book. I appreciated the character arcs for it a lot.
So with Sienna, kind of her growth is around. Can she actually put roots down somewhere? M. Because she hasn’t. Like she’s been going from country to country. She’s usually living off of her art, but sometimes she’ll waitress or whatever she needs to get by, but she doesn’t stay anywhere for longer than six months. She doesn’t do long term relationships or anything like that.
And Jasmine is not happy. Like, she’s not. I don’t feel like she’s depressed or anything like that, but, like she’s clearly not. I don’t know. You know those people that like, they’re existing but they’re not really doing what they want to be doing. They’re not living the kind of life that they want to be living. And she’s quite like that. And there’s a couple of things related to that.
One of them is she really tries to fight. She perceives herself as English, but the world doesn’t perceive her as English because her parents are actually from Iran, and they left in 1979. They immigrated to the UK so she. She feels like, well, I was born and raised in the uk. I’m English. And everybody sees, like, oh, look at this exotic, interesting lady who. And so there’s, like, identity stuff happening there.
She has a really strained relationship with her mother, who has these expectations, as mothers often do. But also, in moving from the UK to the US she stopped being involved in the world of art. And she’s working with this incredibly talented team of people, but like, to create exclusive luxuries for bored rich assholes that they just have all this money. What are they gonna do with it?
Which, you know, kind of as an aside, I don’t know when this was written. Probably last year. I don’t. I don’t know enough about, like, Ylva’s specific publishing timelines or anything like that, but it was wild to be reading this as people have been going through and, like, more and more is coming out of the Epstein files. I know I mentioned that when I read the other book. Like, it’s taking a while for people to go through all the.
>> Kris Bryant: All.
>> Tara Scott: All of what’s there, but, like, knowing that Jasmine was running a seat, like, running a company for people who were probably in the files makes sense. right. And even, like, her husband is a bastard. Like, I don’t. Like, maybe that’s a little bit of a spoiler. I don’t really mind. I. I think it’s kind of telling that, you know, he is the kind of guy that would set up a company like that to keep his wife busy. Her husband was probably friends with Jeffrey Epstein. I’ve just decided that that’s kind of.
>> Kris Bryant: That makes sense.
>> Tara Scott: Right? He’s charismatic, he’s manipulative. That in a way that, like, it really kind of. The more you learn, it’s like, oh, this guy. I, I, hope he gets. I hope he goes to prison. And that would be nice for him.
So I think for me, like, it’s. It was interesting reading it because this beautiful romance is happening and these very interesting character studies are happening, and there’s all these, like, great side characters in the book as well. Like, a lot of the people that work in Jasmine’s company are genuinely wonderful. And this is also happening kind of in the world.
And again, like, it got. I’m sure this was written kind of before, like, we all knew that Epstein existed and knew that he was well connected. But, like, it feels like it’s only now that most people are getting a real awareness of how deep the ties went and that we’re seeing. You know, it’s like it’s. I mean, royalty, right? Royalty, tech billionaires, academics. Like, it’s kind of like wherever he could have influence everywhere. And so I couldn’t read it without thinking about it. But also I liked that it made me think about it. And I like where Jasmine is at the end of the book. I think where they both end up at the end of the storey is so correct for both of them. And I really, really appreciate it.
The other thing is, so I’ve never been to New York City, so I don’t have a strong concept of it other than, you know, all the. The films where it’s like, the big backdrop and Sex in the City and, like, you know, a lot of films and TV shows.
>> Kris Bryant: Right.
>> Tara Scott: but I really enjoyed the New York of this book and that we really get to see it through Sienna’s eyes because she has this, like, beautiful sense of wonder and so she doesn’t care about, like, what are the big glamorous things, but, like, where are the little pops of magic in a city? What are those? Like, you know, what’s that. What’s that tea shop you can go into and have, a magical experience that you wouldn’t have otherwise. And, like, it just brought this real whimsy to it that I really loved.
I read this in a day and a half and I read a third of it twice. This. Okay, so this is how much I love this book. I started reading it on Saturday. We’re recording this on a Tuesday. I started reading it on Saturday and I couldn’t put it down.
And speaking of weed drinks, I had a weed drink. Usually I don’t read published fiction then because I’m not going to retain it, but I couldn’t put it down and I was still following it. And then the next morning I woke up and I was like, well, let’s go back to where I was when I first started. So I read that part twice and I really enjoyed it at both times.
I’m just going to say this because I want to put it in the universe and hope that it happens. I don’t know if it’ll happen, but I would like it to happen. This book would make an amazing miniseries. I hope somebody picks it up and does it. I don’t think a film is enough. I think we need more time. Okay. To do the storey justice, but I think this could be an incredible six part miniseries. Somebody make it happen, please. And Netflix.
>> Kris Bryant: Let’s go.
>> Tara Scott: Netflix, do it.
>> Kris Bryant: Let’s go.
>> Tara Scott: Yeah. So, yeah, it’s called When She Flies by Lee Winter. I very much enjoyed it and I think other people should enjoy it too. And if you read it and you want to talk about it, come find me because I want to talk about it to somebody. That is all for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. If you’ve enjoyed it, tell a friend, especially if you think they would be interested in anything that we talked about. And if you want to support us, we have links in our show notes to our Ko Fi.
>> Kris Bryant: Or if you want to connect with us on your favourite social media sites, we have the links in the show notes for that too. Goodbye, everyone.
>> Tara Scott: Goodbye.